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holobros are so miserable its so funny
bait failed anon, try better next time
inb4 jschlatt joins nijisanjiEN wave 17
LETS GOOOO
Asster Arcadia
can someone pls give me a brief summary on why some of nijien are referred to as “the most hated” among other not so friendly terms?? i’m new so kinda confused but i wanna know in case anyone has a history of being problematic or offensive
dont listen to the hate about anyone on this site except for nina also if u mean ‘history’ as in problematic pl just get outta here cuz by the way ur typing u probs came from twitter and ur gonna get offended by half of the boys when no one else cares about it
if you actually think nina is bad then youre probably the same type with those people on twt lol
the info that twt people had originally came here what??
“half of the boys” stop bringing your male agenda here & instead contribute yourself to an already high male suicide rate
I’m still waiting for the buff daddy-vibes NijiEN male wave. I have been infected by millie’s taste in men, a male wave who has a bobon or a maimoto vibes pls nijisanji en gods
Niji won’t get a daddy wave with 100k subs requirements. They are extremely niche and hidden in indies sea.
Tempus Vesper’s Randon is 16k, even Bobon himself is not 100k yet.
but Bobon is from ex-id which has smaller fanbase then en. I think a bara type character (with a good personality) might actually be a big hit because they’d be the first to pander to audience which such taste. (like how Luxiem’s initial success was also due to them being the first to dive into the market of female audience)
i doubt it would be big, but it’s there
The important part is getting him to EN. Bobon will not cut it with his sub.
give him a sonny as an offering maybe
maria and kyo, our iluna babies, currently having the best collab this wave has seen
i’m sorry but what’s wrong with aka? i don’t even hate her that much and i think her content is ok but the bs where she ‘respects her senapi’ and doesn’t bully them and only bullies her genmates is so dumb. i’ve seen her in some streams just popping in like in luca’s 900k countdown, and i was so surprised like us this rlly the aia i’ve been watching? who’s been insulting kyo, ren and aster constantly? then i rmb kyo talking to enna about how aia ‘respects’ her superiors a lot so she wont talk shit about then and i just think it’s complete bullshit.
(side note: loving kyo, the voice took me a bit to get used to but he’s definitely the most interesting in iluna,
aster is nice to watch as well, but sometimes how much he’s trying to force the uwu is kinda cringe, maria seems like a nice person but again she’s trying to push her being cute way too much, her collab with petra was really nice tho, ren is ok, just ok, i don’t think that he’s as boring as everyone’s saying he is, but i don’t find anything special about him, scarle is also alright, i think she’s good on solo streams but big collabs with large groups really isn’t her thing)
aia*** sorry typo
shit sorry there are a lot of typos, was typing this in a rush and didn’t check the spelling
Aia literally hasn’t bullied anyone past the first week i swear no one actually watches streams
I honestly find her very boring (even more uninteresting than Ren, at least this guy’s starting to warm up) and too forced. She’s also not that fun during collabs. It’s almost like I can feel the pressure she’s going through radiating off of her. Maybe she’s actually a decent streamer, I wouldn’t know since I can’t last longer than 30mins in her streams, but compared to the rest of EN, she just pales in comparison.
nijisanjien
Aster Arcadia
Only Aster
Only Aster
Nina Kosaka
To be honest, I’m getting tired of being shown the act of flirting, it’s a shame because they are a mixed group, so I was expecting to see the interaction between men and women.
I wanted to see their friendship, not love romance.
Same but for the whole branch I’m tired of that shit and most of them gets uncomfortable because of it but still do some fanservice for the ones they like they act like fans
Iluna recently open memberships, does they already stream something for members? (i am not sure about my english skills sorry)
if they have a membership stream, they will put it on their schedule
did anyone ever try having vox recite the john cena bing chilling video
I for one would love to see that happen
wish i could bother to pay money just to troll. i would love to have a username that makes him say “ta1wan is independent” and then put the bing chilling transcript in the super chat
ren needs to step up his game
im not a fan of the dude at all but the comments about him being boring and fujo-baity kinda make me feel bad for him because they’re kinda true at this point in time
I literally just asked myself “who’s Ren?” lmao.
literally all of Noctyx are fujo-bait
and yet somehow theyre ten thousand times more entertaining than a hetero man faking with another hetero man who has a fiance.
at the very least, 4/5 are queer
holy shit, i’ve watched three kyo vods now where hundreds of memberships have been gifted by his fans…what goes ON
iluna will be one month from her debut this week, wdyt?
love aia, ren is meh and the rest are cool
nothing gamechanging, just okay additions to the branch
better than before. some members found their own niche which is great. some members still need some improvement and im willing to give them a chance. overall ok but not overly impressive.
Underwhelming when compared to others, mediocre in general. IMO their additions don’t really impact or contribute anything to NijiEN aside from some PL followers.
aggressively mediocre. i share the opinion that if they didnt debut at the same time as tempus they would prolly be passable.
At this point, I think most of them are forgettable when you compare them to other niji/holo vtubers, especially Ren. I do believe they will be late bloomers though. hopefully.
iluna sisters we stay winning
the fact that mediocrity is seen as a win now *sighs*
we are gathered today to celebrate the insignificant size of this W
iluna and tempus has shown me one thing is evident: hololive has rules and restrictions to protect the talent; nijisanji has rules and restrictions to protect stock holders.
oh do you mind explaining, anon? I’m curious
cn women’s money
hololive bans ta1wan talk to protect talent from harassment. nijisanji bans ta1wan talk to protect the CN market.
you didnt need iluna to realize that they allow Nina to stay within their ranks despite being a a*****e and bringing the mood down wherever she goes and still gets to stay because she can make money for them nijisanji only purpose at this point is to get the most money possible without putting anything back into their talents they dont even have a base salary
they dont get a base salary?? wait are they all listed as independent contractors? i just assumed that they were independent contractors before they went public, but become salaried with benefits post becoming public because being public typically means more money. because why else would anyone stay at this point??
especially someone like finana, she doesnt really rake in that much money on her streams and she doesnt really hang out with her gen mates as much anymore, so theres like litterally nothing holding her back from graduation. her loyal fans will find her anywhere she goes.
border line pyramid scheme if thats the case. because nijisanji takes a cut, so the talent need to basically at least break even to pay the “rent” for using the character model.
or with nijisanji EN’s case, they take a cut to fund luxieum lolololol.
well anycolor previous arc a.k.a ichikara known as black company before, so you already know the gist
They dont get a base salary whatever they make from superchats, donos and merch is their income has been said a thousand times before its why should you always apply to Hololive if you have the chance since you will be paid regardless of your donos etc
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/oo1ecu/comment/h5w1cer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
there is more of the livers themselves confirming they dont get a base salary pretty sure there is a entire video linked made by one in fact by one of the niji livers in the same thread, but its been never a secret either way they even tell you when you apply to nijisanji and make it through the past 3 rounds
this makes so much sense now I would also recruit talents every 2 months if I wasnt the one even paying them jesus thats grim
if anycolor paid base salaries we would probably be seeing a whole lot more “graduations” for the under-performing livers
lol nijisanji legit sounds like a scam. because youre not applying for a job, youre buying into a “network”
“partnership”
depends where you live and your current living situations
indonesia is a shithole the money Mika makes now can sustain her and her family for weeks
also there is a lot of money we dont see like merch and voice packs so who knows how much they actually got from that
LMAOOO you definitely not an Indonesian or living there if you think mika made enough to sustain her and HER FAMILY for WEEKS. Don’t pull that out off your ass anon.
Mika definitely living in Jakarta and it’s not a small city where you can survive a day with only 5 dollar
just a reminder guys, ms. susan also has a cut of super chats. highly recommend buying merch to support your oshis
the fact ren is @ 313k subs meanwhile petra now just hit 402k and selen hit like 500k a bit ago… is mindblowing to me…
Fanbase is getting larger and larger. And niji en male livers have a larger fanbase comparing to female livers thanks to Luxiem’s popularity in CN women.
Mostly deadsubs new fans are just subbing to every new wave before they debut and after they debut and they don’t like the wave some people forget to unsubscribe and it becomes deadsubs
Aster Arcadia
Nina Kosaka
Man I just came here cause I wanted to know if Scarle had a past life, what’s with the chaos in the comments
a daily occurrence here in nyfco anon 🙂
scarle graduate
is scarle bad?
to each and their own
I bet you’re a Magni ‘fan’
Im a Magni fan but I dont follow anything with Magni and Scarle interaction. Is there a clash on fanbase recently? I dont the two are ok?
magni and scarle were literally just interact a few times on twitter and scarle fans has been shipping them since then. like they said some unhinge thing like MAgnI imPREGNaTe sCarLe I Can ALReADy see THeIR CHILdreN. Even worse when we already know magni already have a girlfriend
tl;dr, schizos broke their containment
i’m not making this shit up, you can backtrack here if you want but i dont remember in which page
that’s crazy because i’ve never seen that stuff in her chat or clips at all. tbh it’s probably only on here where the schizos are
if nijisanji and hololive talents EN talents were to talk to each other which would be more likely switch companies?
probably none in the Holopro that’s for sure
thats prolly why nijisanji is blocking the EN collab lol
Why did Selen have the Ollie collab on her schedule before it was canceled then??
Ollie is ID. The ID branches seem to be fine with collabing
id bros pretty chill for collabs. another branch, another company, opposite gender, fleshtuber? whatever, please have fun
Just don’t talk/make jokes about religion or politics with ID bros and you are fine. Make their oshi happy? You are like by them. Mentioned how good their food, or how beautiful their country. It is easy to please them. They are simple minded like that lol
we actually tired of people like you anon, but we still try to be polite and pretend that we are pleased 🙂
has a nijisanji EN talent ever said “i love nijisanji”. hololive talents say it so often
I don’t think any of the holo people. From Niji, I would guess a lot of the girls but none of the boys.
a lotta the guys have said it often like Ike, Vox, Mysta, and Fulgur
why Tempus page so positive and here its full of drama???? its not FAIR they have bad designs, low subs, and dont do romantic stuff with each other. also holo is plain bad bc their popularity is only result of only “few” decent vtubers, super overrated. niji always try to mix it up and iluna have good chemistry with all of the other members and are all each interesting. tempus doesnt deserve the love, cry about it jeez
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK RIIIIIIIIIIIIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
bait failed anon, try again next time
while i do agree on the first sentence and not the rest lol just check nina’s page not all of them but some have valid criticism and people who support iluna there just ignore this page haha
Hahhahahha
Funny lmao
Poor crybaby ILUNA fan
Ok next.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww…. 🙁
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not
bro shut up are people not even allowed to point out differences anymore
Different fanbases. Also The Nijisanji fans dominate this doxxsite so there is more toxicity with more users
it’s funny how a bunch of holosisters are using this page to shit on Iluna to cope with their lives instead of using their free time to watch their own livers
holofan nijifan
shitting on iluna
damn sis i cant post the handshake emoji
Nyfco users
shitting on iluna
handshake (input too short)
yall like like how the dude with japanese name sounds like a black guy? (kyo kaneko)
and is actually white
He is from the south… people from the south sound like that.
People are so f***ing ignorant
yeah as someone else who’s down here I’ve seen people of all races talk like this, it’s based on the area and not by race but internet folks know nothing
people that only seen black people in movies
Alright bud but like u cannot lie that guy literally sounds like he was raised in the ghetto or sum shit. Literally when I first watched his debut I was CONVINCED as a black person that he was infact black so to then find out that he’s actually just some basic white kid was more than a shocker to me. Please jus try to put yourself in a black persons shoes before calling us “ignorant” ..
i mean i’m black and all sorts of people sound like that if you’re from the area
he sounds like a guy fresh out of highschool, which he is lol sorry that kyo doesn’t fit your headcanon
he sounds like a suburban kid from an affluent neighborhood that listens to pop hip-hop.
no he doesn’t. and there are no “affluent” neighborhoods in the dirt poor backwards third-world south
Literally bro ,I was shook too, the south slang might be similar to aave but he’s def using a blaccent.
for anyone who found iluna’s debut song underwhelming – here’s a cover by chinese fans that shows what the song could’ve been with good mixing and if niji actually tried
https://b23.tv/bBaY0Hh
ok but nothing can fix those horrible lyrics. this beat is wasted on iluna.
what needs to actually happen tho: mash up of this instrumental with someting else
Actually, ironically this voice more suitable to the character.
want to upload the compare cover and original, but i dont know where to upload audio as anonymous,
Found one :
https://voca.ro/15EWKvZZziBe
use the headset, the left one is the cover and the right one is the original.
maria and cover maria sound so good together 😮
Am I the only one who likes Iluna’s song, like the moment I heard it- it became my second favorite song after DCL… not a fan of Iluna tho which is sadge
The song itself is good (beat and lyrics) the mixing on the other hand could be so much better… it didnt even enhance the iluna members voice made them sound so robotic.
why did i automatically know Aruvn would be in it lol
why did i automatically know Aruvn would be in it lol
Guys it doesnt matter whats better and what not, what matters is that you enjoy yourself, even if Ren or whoever dips after a year you can still enjoy yourselves until then, this either nothing or all mentally isnt good. Tempus is definitely a great group and I wish them all the best but I would rather still watch Scarle and Aster, having the best of anything doesnt mean its the best for YOU.
The problem is that Tempus indeed bring a new option to the EN Vtubing especially via their two top batter, Vesper and Magni, the zatsudan expertise and the otaku professor with their niche currently unfulfilled. Meanwhile Scarle and Aster are good livers, but don’t bring anything new compared to current NijiEN livers and HoloEN talents. If one is already a Nijifans for some long time, continue supporting your oshi from previous NijiEN waves seems like a logical option rather than having new one that is less interesting than your long supported oshi anyway.
Also Tempus is so far doing at good at emulating the ‘brotubers’ Gen archetype, meanwhile Iluna is failed at creating synergical good mixed gender Gen. The long-following Nijifans will choose to stay with unofficial synergical group like NijiCancelled who is provenly being interesting together.
Your last sentence is something a lot of people miss out on. Sure we’re all hyped for new groups and stuff but well, behind the screen, vtubers are not shiny new gacha game characters. They don’t powercreep each other and make others irrelevant, and their existence, good or bad, doesn’t invalidate the existence of others before them. They’re real people giving it their all. Please don’t just forget about them and move on as soon as the next new thing comes out. As long as they’re vtubers, they still have many more things they want to show their fans. They still have a reason to be there too. If you don’t like a new group, then support the ones who are already there.
Not op but I wouldn’t say they brought nothing new, Scarle has a very unique approach to streaming she might look like a bimbo waifu but she is very loveable and somewhat of a klutz while also simping for 2d otome men lol honestly I love her and in Vox talkshow you can see she has shaken off a lot of her previous nervous she is definitely heading in the right direction, I will definitely stick with her and I’m not really looking for unfulfilled niches in vtubers if I like their vibe and their interactions thats usually enough for me to stick with them, but everyone is different of course.
i like scarle too. she would be better at hololive. we all know this. cover has proven they can unlock people’s potential. look at amelia watson. speaking of which they both love otome games and would prolly get along.
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Nina Kosaka
Imagine if Tempus didn’t happen and didn’t raise all our standards. I wonder what consensus on ILUNA would be like lol
if only EN managements don’t rush to debut them just because tempus debut soon, now they eat their own shit when they think iluna is superior with designs and PL’s subs thing
yeah did iluna debuted faster than their counter parts group on niji?
Btw, Tempus and Iluna start auditioning in the same time, March 4 2022. In sense, it is almost logical that they will debut in the same time. Iluna had extra two members means extra time, but Tempus is the first male Gen also means extra time, that’s why Iluna take longer than usual NijiEN (5 instead of 4 months) and Tempus does not reduce their month despite 1 less member (usual 5 months). And yes, NijiEN debut is getting faster from Lazulight (6 months).
Are you f***ing serious another male wave PLEASE GIVE US A FULL FEMALE WAVE FFS
they still try to milk cn women’s money
Cn fandom pandering is so gross
gross but really smart since they don’t really have to compete with holo for those juicy cn money
Yeah, Niji is really going uncontested right now for CN money
vshojo i hope you read this /j
even kpop still aiming for cn women’s money, no wonder niji also did the same thing (since cn basically EN’s biggest money source)
iluna actually made me watch holostar content for the first time when I’ve always preferred niji contents.
That says everything about how this gen is right now.
Me too, anon. Me too….
Aster Arcadia
anon, for the last time, this is not the search bar!
Nina Kosaka
vesper and callie collab already better than any iluna x nijisanji collab
don’t slander my boy kyo like that
stop using nowa oji for your baiting
ren crying rn
even better than your mom x your dad
ren’s gotten less than $100 in supas in his last two videos…the downfall has begun
how much would you get? 0
we’re not jobless like you anon
Aster Arcadia
not the search bar
zoomers are the new boomers
Nina Kosaka
i cant wait until dream debut in nijiEN gamers!
New Addition already LOL how desperate are you to cover up your mistake group by making it gaming only, you can be entertaining in any field if you have the talent but nijisanji can’t be arsed to take the time to look for actual talents can’t wait for them to recruit the most toxic gamers under the sun because they have a lot of viewers
Uhhhh, yes this is also a concern. Professional gaming scene is also pretty famous at being toxic. Nijisanji Gamers and Hololive Gamers in the end are just a Gamer in the name, none of them are really serious gamer at all, basically just good streamers who like games. Normally this again will be just a Gamer gen at all, recruiting some good, experience streamer who is decent at games.. Normally. This will not be a Gen full of toxic gamer streamer, right? Right?
plss i really hope this next wave will be of good streamers who are decent at games
Good streamers… Like Minecraft and Duolingo?
I didn’t mean their contents, what I meant by good, at the very least they’re not awkward interacting with viewers so I wouldn’t have to cringe from awkwardness watching them no matter what their content is.
Having a new Gen which is targeted at gaming, yet only choose male talents instead of mixed gen is contraproductive. They will just top-bottom shipped for eternity. They should keep the mixed Gen, it certainly will keep the vision tunnel for a gaming Gen.
Also I hoped for someone able for gaming who is at least posted in r/VirtualYoutuber, if not posting it by him/herself.
but only the characters are males right? the genders of the talents themselves don’t matter if they can present themselves as male characters. well just hope the new people don’t care about ship and just game like what they audition for. and be entertaining please.
yugo yugo yugo
Again, I really am curious why liking a female PL presented as male talent is treated as something really normal. Just a Nijisanji thing again? Done as parody, fine. Seriously? Uhhhhh nahhh. This won’t create a talent related to the gamer fans at all. Yugo is as a bad prime example does not make good case at all.
are there any iluna members who consistently read supas? I’ve noticed that even when they don’t get many they seem to ignore them
I only watch maria and yeah she does, and she will say if she’ll read it at the end of the stream.
I watch Aia and yes she read it as soon as she sees it
She doesn’t get that many to begin with, of course she gotta read them all kek
See the way Aia earned more than Kyo and Aster.
it’s cause she has that one guy who keeps sending her red supas
doesn’t change the fact that she reads them at the same rate as the other two lmao
just admit your bait was wrong
Aster tries to read them when he sees them, if he misses any he does read through all at the end of stream.
Scarle reads all of them constantly as they come. If I recall she is the top superchat earner of ILUNA right now.
shota models for the new male livers please
Wdym? Almost every male en are shota
who? only kyo’s barely shota but not really
kyo’s not even close to shota anon… do you even read manga?
STFU s****d SHOTACON
NijiEN Male Gamer, very specific, are they searching for EN version of Kuzuha Kanae?
That’s some specific auditio, huh? NijiEn Male Gamer. What are they trying to do anyway? Searching for their own xQc?
cant wait for tyler1 lets goooo
anon you said male gamer not male youtube videos reactor
Oh, new auditions, huh? Well, I hope the upcoming new unit members won’t use repeated jokes.
Also, I know it sounds impossible because EN is more into fantasy than slice of life vibes. But, it would be nice if we had CEO type characters like Kagami and Taka, or bartenders like Chaika and Belmond in EN.
I’d kill for a bartender and more bara models in EN
give millie and the masses what we want for the love of god a bara vtuber pls
new auditions already huh. i rlly wanted to like iluna when they were first introduced but the flop is real… i’m only enjoying kyo for now
which is funny because kyo was the only one who didn’t appeal to me before their debut lmao
hes too mald for me
they prolly wouldve been passable if they didnt debut as the same time as tempus imho
seriously based on talent, streaming ability, gen synch, tempus ate them up
what in the head of niji staff when they hired them, I bet there are a lot of really great rejected talents because they don’t have lot of subs from their PLs
and now tempus just released their song, and it’s really good, sorry ILUNA, but I believe one day you can do better
Fr… the tv sized version getting the MV is my only complaint but I personally love the vocals *significantly* more than Let’s Get it Started (I admit they’re both autotuned to an extent though)
true!!!! niji liker but idk why they have more subs tbh
Rrat: ILUNA wasn’t supposed to debut this early (plan was mid to late September) but was rushed because of Tempus. Kinda explains why they lack the chemistry other groups have.
there’s no way they could bend deadlines over a month and a half in advance, especially with producing the lore videos and practicing their debuts + songs.
but they did, hence the quality
how do some of u find the way scarle interacts with others cute i would rather eat a doorknob than hear someone say scarles funny, a good singer, cute, or entertaining
the 1 good thjng about her is her model
What do you have against her?
woman moment
i cant believe we got robbed so hard with Iluna’s models
oh wdym anon? do you mean that the livers don’t live up to the models? i think they look good but streams is kinda boring. sorry, my english is not the best
Except Kyo and Aster, they’re slowly climbing on the top of my oshi list.
im sorry but aster is cringe to me (kyo is fine)
Nina Kosaka’s b***h Catalogue is brought to you by Tower of Fantasy. Out now!
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Man is she really that bad?
The proof is right there
that’s for you to decide
interesting. kind of related: i wonder what the protocol is at hololive when talents get into a scuffle with eachother. you know it has to happen once in awhile.
they’re going to the usual room
As a Holofans, I can confirm this is right.
Any scuffle talent, and even fans, they will be sent to the usual room.
What’s the usual room?
It’s where they kiss and make up.
“Reconcile or else!”
rule number 1 in KFP… we don’t talk about the usual room
either you make up or turned into a nugget
For the next wave they should stop pandering to underage zoomers. Who was the genius who thought kids have money to throw and pay for s**t?
For the next wave fire whoever recruited these i***ts and actually take the time to watch more than 5 minutes of their content anyone can lie on an interview, the holopro interviewers actually go out their way undercover to spent time in your streams and in chat to see what kinda person you are (If you pass the first 2 rounds) and those who didnt stream before applying WHY DID YOU HIRE THEM
Because, subs.
dead subs…
yeah….its awful seeing even the most entertaining iluna streams (kyo) make only like $50 in supas because no one in the audience has a job
while Noir who caters to boomers got bullied by supas. 2k for a chatting stream
To op prior to this: Levi Elipha (レヴィ・エリファ). Idk if you’re looking for her.