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- Noir Vesper
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Thank you vesper, i will miss his zatsudan 🙁
Tbh, given how Altare and Axel are still posting tweets normally, it seems like it’s going to be ok.
“What are they going to do? Fire me?”
-Fired man
I am pretty sure that’s the thing Magni said, in his first drawing stream
Both said it
Uyu’s 3D debut reaffirmed for me that he truly is an idol.
his skills were so much better than i expected, i was shook
looks like altare is subbing for vesper in the apex tourney
source: Axel’s schedule for this week
yes forgot to mention that thank you
look for the answer that requires the least amount of assumptions
Pretty sure they found out he was turning ice off superchats after explicitly being bonked for the first panic stream and being told not to. They could have just realized, hence the sudden bonk. Source: my brain thinking about the obvious.
If they all graduate from holo and start an indie group, would you follow them?
I highly doubt Axel would leave, his focus is in music-related projects and he gets the most out of being in Holo.
also he is the most good boys among them, he is the one who not rt ing or liking those uniform post by lando
it’s not like he doesn’t, but we rather don’t know because he privated his pl account, did you able to follow him and confirm he did nothing?
you bet he didn’t get what lando meant there
Honestly yes lmao. Go back to Randon’s past design, have all the others make dnd race characters, and become a dnd adventuring party
I’m not sure, maybe I will subscribe to them but I doubt I will be as active as now (watching almost everything and paying membership + merch). I’m more of a Stars fan and I only have one oshi that I will follow everywhere
people forget that suspensions are a big deal in any company lol.
the thing is: is cover overreacting or acting appropriately? this is first time they actually pinned blame on the talent directly for a suspension.
I think for vtubers, graduations are the big deal
I really think that’s the whole problem with this. We’ve never seen this kind of language for a suspension so it’s concerning and understandably people are trying to understand what it means and what Ves could have done to cause it.
anyone ever think that they are not releasing any details about this because its super embarrassing for vesper or something? makes me think he might’ve step over some boundaries. it looks more worst for vesper the more i look at it
Got more info about Vesper suspension
https://twitter.com/SuppaPongo/status/1593972084916584449?s=20&t=t8xHCPr06MVDWqP-ExoB2Q
Just link the reddit comment next time instead of some rando screenshotting it lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/yz8oom/noir_vesper_from_holostars_en_suspended_for_2/iwyqjfa/
God damnit they finally got after Vespy for not being a qualified therapist
i wonder if the boys are canceling their streams out of solidarity of if whatever vesper did was so bad that it has them all shook
i think more so that fans don’t bombard them with questions regarding the situation and them not saying anything out of line
i just hope it’s nothing too serious and everyone is fine. i doubt we would get an explanation once it’s over but having some clarity would help with all the speculation.
If his suspension was related to the girls he wouldn’t have been suspended but fired instead.
Don’t disappoint your parents and use your brain for once.
playing devils advocate: if it was sexual harassment this 2 week suspension could be a cover for an internal investigation.
We’re watching vtubers disappointing parents is what we do
All tempus boys been cancelling their stream uh oh
I don’t blame them. It would be difficult to tackle on the issue the day after the incident happened. Probably very emotional. Better that they collect themselves before they address everything
I’m relieved Altare still tweeting and replying other talents it kinda hints nothing too big happened (or so I hope)
Can’t deny it sounds serious though. Lando coming back in 2023 and now this. Something is definitely going on behind the scenes that boys do not like.
Would like to add that people rarely comeback the same from a suspension. Without an explanation that’s a mark on your record forever. And even if he does comeback with an explanation it’s not going to be sufficient when it’s a statement that’s highly vetted by the hire-ups/the powers that be.
You can argue that the other suspensions were to protect the talent. But with this notice it clearly pins the blame on vesper.
It seems like covers biggest problem wasn’t finding an audience for holostarsEN but entitled American men that are not used to being told what to do (magni/vesper).
Lando coming back has been hinted a long time ago, he has a successful sidejob and gimmick he should not just abandon just bc he became a vtuber, its a good idea to have a plan b anyways. So lets not make that a big deal, not like he is the first hololiver and holostar to have a sideacc
And vesper, whatever it is, he is taking responsibility for it. Japanese corpos do take their rules seriously
Lando has the most followers among the boys pl and I’m sure he’s not gonna abandon such big audience, so him coming back to pl isn’t really surprising tbh.
imagine a year later axel would be the only one left
tbf even if he has the least subs he really feels like starsen’s poster boy
dont overthink about it just enjoy your vtuber as it is, they graduate? let them, it is what it is you still can find more talent in the internet life already hard enough
“What are they going to do? Fire me?”
How tight was Kronii’s pussy Vespie?
loose, she’s a feminist after all
talking to men = feminism
thats what parentless think
Stop using your penis to think everything, u idiot
c’mon guys, if you’re gonna ship people, at least be a little bit more creative. you can ship anyone with anyone or anything, ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES, that’s the beauty of it. your grandpa clock OTP is getting real old (haha get it?)
It’s sexual harassment.
stop assuming shit scumbag
Its gonna be funny when it turns out to be true. But yeah keep defending him
okay retard
Anon i’m here to tell you that the voice in your head does not equal truth. Pls seek help or take your meds instead falsely accusing other people.
I really hope that the reason for his suspension isn’t anything involving the girls. The fact that its such vague reasoning isn’t helping his case either
From the JP tweet, it sounds like a minor breach, more like a “self-reflect to fix your behaviour” kinda situation. The EN version of the translation sounds a bit more stiff and harsh (maybe due to the character count limit?). I do hope it’s nothing too serious tho. Gonna be a bit boring having nothing much to watch for 2 weeks.
I bet he’s just butting heads with management behind the scenes or something along those lines, sadly the asian corporate world is fucking soul-sucking and very hierarchical. hopefully that’s all there is to it.
Altare and Axel are still tweeting like normal, so if anything this is not a big deal/not that serious. So nothing to doompost about
I wonder if this is to do with the uniform issue and Vesper just decided to take the fall for it. Idk man. But despite all of the insane stuff that has happened in the history of Holostars, and of all people, Vesper being the one to get suspension is ironic lol.
unlikely. Also the “uniform” thing seems to be just fans reading too much and overreacting, cos to me it reads more like him mocking the people who called his model ugly. he couldve worded it better tho and put quotation marks in the “ugly” word
Take a chill pill everyone
Vesper actually leaking his recording fcking with kronii
Stop thinking with your penis
Get your head out of your dick you gross mf
Holostar flop
Wait, 2 weeks from today? What about the Apex Tourney?
Damn, they’re going to continue the DnD campaign, and then, this happens. Idk how the rest of the Tempus boys are going to deal with this since people are going to keep asking them. Axel canceled his upcoming stream today. I doubt Altare would say something given he’s very careful with his words. As for Magni? His manager would probably restrain him from saying anything for a while.
But anyways, this incident is really going to weigh on Vesper. I just hope this is settled and we will get Vesper’s explanation after this.
Leader cancelled his menshi stream apparently ㅠㅠ
Altare posted on membership and cancelled his stream too.
what happened actually?
No one knows…cover being absolute shit leaving room for people to speculate things instead being transparent about it
People speculating this and that, but in all likelihood we will never know and that is probably for the best. The talents will want to move past this, not bring it up.
Look at the announcement on Cover’s official Twitter.
Is there any holo talent got suspended for certain time before? Did they able to come back normally and elaborate what was the problem? Sorry I’m new to holo so I don’t know much.
*certain period of time
Ookami mio
not sure she was suspended back then, if i’m not mistaken she went hiatus due to her channel got copystrike twice by capcom. ‘cause of these, management deleted/privated all of the talent’s old vod to avoid the same problem (which people dubbed it as ‘HOLOcaust’)
雪花ラミィ
briefly said she made fun of the dustman during the stream, maybe not on purpose, but she got suspended for weeks too
who’s dustman?
job (input too short
They mean janitor. It was an incident involving not just Lamy but also Botan and Polka. They made some bad jokes making fun of janitors and basically belittled them on a minecraft stream
Can you share the link pls?
The original stream and all clips got understandably nuked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/j4am2v/anyone_know_why_polkas_latest_stream_has_over_500/
This has more information on the incident.
Nene, suspended for art tracing.
Marine and Miko, suspended for a manga in a fridge (long story).
Aloe was suspended for leaking her hololive model on her past life account.
Rushia was widely reported to have been suspended for leaking confidential information, twice, but both times she was officially ‘ill’ (ironically, she might have leaked the fact that she got suspended)
Coco and Haachama were both suspended for ‘leaking youtube informatics’ (pissing off China)
I think that’s the only ones that are public, though you never know what goes on behind the scenes of course.
Did coco graduated on her own will or terminated? Was it because of that?
Coco graduated by her own choice. if she’s terminated then her account will be deleted just like Rushia.
I don’t know about Aloe, but with the exception of Coco and Haachama, the others you mentioned are self-imposed, as in the talent themselves come forward to announce they are going to take a break from streaming to ‘reflect’.
Vesper’s was the same as Coco and Haachama, in which Cover officially announced the suspension.
your comment just makes me even more anxious lmao I hope things will get better though
Functionally I feel they’re the same, it’s just a case of how it’s announced. If the talent is unable or unwilling to do it themselves, or it would be inappropriate for whatever reason, it will just be a faceless management post by default.
It’s certainly not the easiest thing to do, and I imagine it’s only so common because in Japan it’s considered somewhat shameful not to do it yourself. On the other hand the standard issue bowing and apologetic press conference is a little alien to western eyes (and even the Japanese parody it all the time).
I disagree with this. In Nene, Marine, and Miko’s case, their ‘break’ were designed to make sure they cool down from all the heat they’re getting (and it worked). As in, it’s for their own sake. Meanwhile, in Vesper’s case it’s a straight punishment.
It’s a straight bully
lmao well maybe he shouldn’t piss off the management in the first place
Well all three of them wholeheartedly apologised for everything and certainly acted like they were at fault.
In Miko and Marine’s case it was likely just putting it behind them, but Nene’s oops was quite serious. She got a whole production line of merch cancelled, and she was openly guilty of many counts of art theft. She almost certainly got super bonked, and likely lost a lot of money in liabilities too.
She was lucky the artist and the fans were supportive.
I’ve remembered a few more, that are worth noting.
Towa, suspended for having voices leak into her stream, and then lying that they were Cover employees. (this I feel is a very straightforward ‘get your act together’ suspension. Towa had already shown somewhat lax information security to the point the others had commented on it)
Ollie, suspended for streaming while mentally and physically unwell. (functionally it was a suspension, she was banned from streaming, but very clearly this was imposed entirely out of concern)
Matsuri, suspended for making her spat with Haachama public. (straightfoward yab, straightfoward punishment, everyone understood and moved on)
moona also got suspended for 2 weeks back in 2020 dont know the reason tho same reason like vesper
it was because she made a joke out of religious stuff on twitter, which was kinda a thing back then around the local netizen.
Tempus was fun while it lasted… My only hope is that if they still collab on their PL accounts…
collab? theyre in jail dude
They really don’t know how to handle problems. If it’s internal why talk abou it in public instead of pretend the talent had to tale a break for personal reasons, or stuff like that?
People are going to speculate
yeah cover is not big company
small indie company btw
Honestly yes
lmfao and then if they lied or kept quiet and then news about this came out later I’m sure everyone would rage about it harder. transparency is the way to go
What’s transparent about this bullshit? They are so vague as they always are. Literally came out of nowhere. His latest zatsudan and the pokemon stream are just normal. They made this announcement at the time when he’s usually supposedly sleeping too.
Cover already got shit on a ton in the past for lack of transparency so I guess this is the result of it. If they hid it and were found out then people will start questioning and speculating every time a member takes a break in the future.
It’s a forced hiatus for internal misconduct. So sort of a disciplinary action, that’s why I’m guessing they made it public, so he does know that there will be repercussions.
probably this
That’s fair. But better timing and better wording helps. The community was in high spirits with the collab earlier and the 3d debut later, but this announcement felt like whiplash. Are they punishing the fans, too? Regarding wording, “misconduct” appears in legal terms that lead to dismissal while “effective immediately” sounds really urgent. In the end, Vesper only gets a two-week suspension, but with those words mixed in, it’s like he did something really serious. It also doesn’t help that “internal misconduct” as a term is opaque. It could mean anything.
sounds like a you problem, maybe dont kneejerk panic at legalese
not really. it’s a matter of optics. it’s like they cant decide whether to be transparent or keep things under wraps, and it’s not achieving the desired effect. if transparency is their goal they should have detailed more what this “misconduct” is , if they couldnt it would have been better if they just made the talent go a 2 week hiatus, and thats it. this faux transparency results in nothing but vague wording is not doing them any favor, cos people are going to talk.
Pretty sure their desired effect is, like the comment posted above, “so [Vesper] know that there will be repercussions.”, as in to punish him, and probably making him an example to warn the other talents. It’s not about being transparent with the fans.
People will talk either way. The phrasing “internal misconduct” is imo the best way to say it’s 1) off-stream and therefore nothing that anyone could figure out if they would snoop for hints and 2) not to give any information for people to even be able to speculate. Most speculations are just antis saying the worst shit which a regular person won’t believe.
It’s what happens when an indie company suddenly gets big because of pure, dumb luck. They don’t know why and how they got there. Everything else is mediocre still.
lmao the first one who got into trounle is randon, i thought it will be lando first but not its the ggen x
Same lmao it’s kinda understandable if it’s magni but vesper?! I’m shocked
just like how their zomboid stream, vesper will die first instead of magni
Alright what do you think Vesper did
spill some insider info maybe
that calls for termination as proven by another talent
best case scenario: overly passionate when pushing for permission to do things and may have crossed the line in how he spoke to the managers
worst case scenario: some kind of harassment of other talent
I don’t think it’s harassment, if that was the case he should be terminated not only suspended
Cover had a manager sexually harassing mel for months and didn’t terminate him after finding out until she threatened them, lol. They do not give a fuck about women.
Cover learnt a lot after that incident; they apologized and commited to do better going forward.
Cover. Do better.
It’s off-stream and if we actually go for something that the public knows about, then it could be that he took the full responsibility for the tweet that Lando did over his “work uniform”. As in “hey it was my idea, if you want to punish anyone then please let me shoulder it alone”. That’s the most good faith interpretation I can bring to the table.
lol maybe they shouldn’t have given them such dogshit models in the first place. altare and axel are decent enough, why couldn’t they have hired better artists for them too? en management is such a joke
That’s something they should bring up internally with management, not in a public vaguepost via PL.
“and u know whats EVEN MORE unbased than Kronii senpai?? HOLOSTARS-EN!!”
magni getting ready graduate.
its nice that tempuras are nice, especially in prechat but some of them act like they own it
The girl with the ฅ^._.^ฅ in her name in Axel’s chat
Yeah but she’s not only in Axel’s
what did she do?
Can you explain?
sea and ph fans forming their own prechat clique are kind of annoying esp in altare’s prechat but idk about the other guys
axels prechat is kinda cringe
Bruh ph fans do this in luxiem prechat too istg why it’s always them
They’re cringe (input)
you would expect this behavior from teens but when you see their ages on twitter… lol
lol I understand this feelings as someone who watch the boys regularly but not interacting with the fandom or have any tempura friends at all. But those people are pretty nice tho, if you say hi or saying anything random out of the blue even if you’re no one and don’t know them they’d respond, so, perhaps not their intention to make others feel uncomfortable as they’re pretty welcome but sure it kinda makes other people hard to join convo.
so many doubters these days huh
Hey, I just discovered tempus. I’ve seen that some stream and clips mentioned about podcast. Where can I listen it?
it’s not launched yet!
Ooh I see. Thank you!
Do yall think they will get new outfits for new year?? Or is it too early?
I think it’s the plan.
Naturally stuff like this is dependent on artists delivering their work on time, so I’m not putting hard money on it though.
He’s returning to his pl channel next year https://twitter.com/Professor_Lando/status/1593445575961169920 thoughts?
good for him i guess
He is getting ready to ditch holostar
It’s funny that people here are jumping to conclusions that he’s leaving but then, you have some holomembers being active in their PL accounts.
Some of which are actively making porn.
Who’s doing that?
are you mistaking gura as belle delphine
LOL, this is a thing? this is a fucking dox site, there’s info on gura, she’s definitely not that pornstar.
honestly i kinda looking forward to it @.@ …
but im kinda worried if that means less magni stream in the future
Could be numerous reasons. Plenty of Holopro talents become active again on their PLs after a certain time has passed though
which talents still active streaming on their pl?
Demondice (Calli’s PL).
Matsuri, Noel, Choco, Mel, Nene, AKZi, Laplus… Kiara’s very active on twitter. Ina is still a full time artist, as I’m sure are others.
Matsuri has even floated a RL concert and meet and greet, her only worry is if anyone would show up.
Cover have always been totally chill with it.
Temma is streaming literally right now
He’s streaming every time I see him
and then he goes back to streaming on his holo account right after. what a chad
what’s temma’s pl name? also does astel stream on his pl or is it a sub account? the furry one I dont remember but I feel like I read about it somewhere
he has a page here
both of their PL is in this site
might actually see demondice and lando collab hahaha
they have similar vibe tbh lol
lol the astolfo figurine, ofc
why do they have four tier membership while mostly other holo talents only have 1-2 tier?
as a way to give more options to their viewers, for example they have a really cheap one for those that cant afford the normal $5 one and a really expensive one for those that can afford it
hololive is in like a permissions drought rn. everyone is playing the same games on EN side
Or they got sponsored
Where are they… The tempus teamup schedule looks empty only Altare released his schedule and streaming I miss the boys
Axel is still recovering probably. Vesper normally takes Monday/Tuesday or both days off, and Magni is probably taking a small break too. Although it’s looking empty right now, I’m glad they’re taking a much-needed break. Hopefully, they’ll come back recharged.
Vesper said that November would be quiet for Tempus, with December being crazy busy.
I’m guessing could be a potential second outfit reveal for holiday season. Seems like StarsJP is getting them, so EN could potentially be added to the line up. Otherwise, it could be New Year’s kimono?
Also, typically December is a busy season for HoloPro. There’s the StarsJP annually held offcollab Christmas party and other holiday related special streams. Not sure what will happen to the EN side tho.
Axel is desperate to come back and his flu has passed, but he needs a few days to get his strength back. Magni needs some time to do stuff he ignored while he was with Vesper.
And yeah, I’m sure they’ll get new outfits for the New Year.
Magni recently had an Apex collab with AmaLee (Monarch) and EvilToaster. And prior to the gameplay, he already mentioned from his membership stream that he’s going to the doctor for a minor surgery. He said expect him to be out for a day.
hololpro is currently looking for EN manager. they’ll be managing holostarsEN and hololiveEN
Fr? Source?
Trust me bro
check their career openings:
https://hrmos.co/pages/1631481086627794944/jobs/1114-2
I’m fairly sure most managers are capable of jumping between the two branches. They tend to like shuffling them around (unless a particular pair work really well together), so it just gives them more options.
4chan is a weird place. They hate tempus but at the same time they knw every tempus stream ccv and hates them for collabing with streamers both hololive and outside hololive.
stick to /mans/ if you have to visit 4chan
whats /mans/?
Tempus general, if you are on catalog, just search for mans there and you will find the thread
They are just Tsunderes lmao
That’s just how anonymous forum works. Even this place is like that.
Just curious here. Any speculation on Aruran’s sudden changes in his appearance? I feel like his change is coming for management and this decision is made recently, seeing that he is the only one who doesn’t have the new outfit. I believe his change is not because of his low popularity (Temma and Miyabi have lesser sub than him) but I really can’t think of any more reason for that
hlstars 5ch thread mostly accepted it’s likely because he has the lowest merch sales plus how hard it is to find artists that can draw both appealing ikemen and ojisan for group themed merch, idk what reasonings kaigai fans have been using
You bring up a good point. I went to AX’22 this past summer and combed through the artist alley, but I couldn’t find Aruran merch or art from indie artists. There were, however, merch and art of other Stars.
There’s a recent stream he did with Fubuki and Matsuri. I’m not fluent in JP so I didn’t get all of it, but by the gist of it, it seems like the decision was made by himself and management so that he can fit better with the entire stars during group activities. It’s also following the whole “idol-like appearance” theme. The gist of it is that he said he was glad that he’s a vtuber, and that he can do things like de-aging and stuff like that.
My best guess is, it was his time for brush-up and model rework to the updated version of L2D, so they decided to go for it. Although I do like the rigging on his new model, and his face emotion is more fluid, I’m still gonna miss the old Arupapa. I think it suits his voice and personality well, and it does look cool. It’s gonna take some time to get used to the younger one.
Wait I’m not keeping up with stars JP, so it’s his fixed model now? I thought he just has two different models that he could switch anytime…But honestly it’s kinda odd when I saw stars jp concert line up for the first time and saw his model way older than everyone with their bishie look (except oga he’s that manly type but still looks young to be around the rest)
Based on his 3D rebirth stream, it seems like he would start to push his younger model in comparison to the old one, especially for the “idol” works. It’s interesting to see if he will get a new set of other outfits (like the new year kimono and the more formal looks), or if he will simply use the old model around the new year and summer festival.
Most likely, he’ll do png outfits on the new model if those are not ready for the occasions. It’ll be weird to go back to the old model at this point with brand recognition.
I think he’s been left out from the A/W outfit reveal. Most likely couldn’t get his to be made in time with everybody else’s
I think someone explained that due to him using a new model, they couldn’t get the artist to do in time, so most probably his would be slotted to reveal together with uproar’s. But all 17 of them will be getting their winter outfit by the end of the year
I doubt he will use his old model anymore cuz he said in one of his stream that we most probably got to see his old modal one last time in his birthday stream.
Yeah, that’s what I thought. That’s really sad. That model had a certain charm to it. Ngl, his younger model lacks a certain niche appeal that his older model has.
Is magni bisexual or just semi bisexual
prof lando is bisexual, magni… who knows.
What does semi bisexual even mean?
My guess is 75% straight, 25% bi.
Bisexuality doesn’t have percentages, that makes no sense.
Have you never heard of the kinsey scale?
It means he’s straight all year except summer cos of all the mankinis.
Yes he is.
Ur either bisexual or not lmao
Its just people trying to categorize everything down to the smallest detail to feel special with a cool title
does anyone have link to tempus guild hall discord?
Here for the Tempus guide hall if you interested
x o y o n d o c o m / m b / p K m x D K L n N S 9 O 2 H A
i just discovered astel from the regis and astel valorant stream. he is completely cracked at singing. is it true that when he auditioned they didnt know he could sing and brought him onboard initially as a gamer?
Cmiiw, Astel didn’t audition. He’s scouted and they probably knew he could sing already, he’s so talented I sincerely believe yagoo hit jackpot finding the kid. Not sure about the gamer thing but he definitely has stamina for gaming but from his early streams, I think he was only about to focus on some FPS. He didn’t get in cracked at it.
astel got scouted but they didn’t know he could sing when he was hired, that’s what he has said on stream at least
can yagoo do my genshin gacha rolls for me
That is actually funny. Imagine the management hiring someone because of their dedication and stamina in gaming (which Astel has, he’s pretty dedicated on games like Minecraft even on his PL) and then for the first time witnessing those unarchived performances. Not trying to compare number here but I remember ppl speculating how surprised management must be every time they see his revenue lol.
Astel is a solid guy. He seems to have a theatre background. I remember he got scouted, but I think they weren’t aware of his singing abilities back then. It’s also amazing that APEX is his first introduction to FPS and he is so cracked at it. He is also good at dancing and overall endurance-wise. He did so much for his lore and he currently has a mystery murder game going. I think him, izuru, Shien and Rikka (Fire Flower) just released their yearly summer cover. And with Rio they released their Halloween cover too. They’re both on Izuru’s channel. Please give it a listen! They’re both so good, it’s a shame that not a lot of people know about it.
t.m.i but astel mentioned he sang on a karaoke with his friend and his friend was so amazed that astel felt encouraged singing even more and that’s why he started loving singing!!! (his friend is irl friend not vtuber) theres a clip somewhere about that
I didnt know Elysium was a concept and thought it was a new word in the Tempus lore.
https://youtube.com/shorts/1CBV4sJnpes?feature=share
The scifi film took the word elysium from the greek mythological concept of heaven
The word elysium really fits their adventurer lore, since in greek mythology, elysium is where heroes go.
wait, what happened to the farewell zatsu?
they said in the unarchived karaoke that it might not happen since vesper has to drive 8 hours to get home. probably preferred to take a rest bc of that.
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